25 Responses for "Street Runway: Dress Deja Vu"

1. impolite one September 1st, 2008 at 3:23 pm 1

   I’d like to wish that all of these ugly outfits go away for when I come to Korea in a couple weeks, but that is wishful thinking. Until then, ugh.

2. lovelyprincess September 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm 2

   I just did some fall shopping yesterday and T-Hous at Coex Mall is covered in stfuf like this. All browns, grays, whites and forest green colors. Also, big, baggy long sleeved shirt dresses were there. Also, something new is a little scarf that looks like a hankerchief and you tie them around your neck over your blouse or shirt. Cute! I bought some of their stuff yesterday. I’ve had a black suspender high waisted paperbag waist minidress since June. They are still in for fall. I like the long shirts to wear as a dress or over leggings/stockings, but some of them are too big. I saw a girl at Coex yesterday wearing one almost to her ankles over jeans. It didn’t look nice. It looked like a tent over jeans. I don’t wear mine any longer than knee length.

3. Maximus September 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm 3

   Well, Imp One, who said that fashion needs to be beautiful / nice / awesome ? Fashion can be ugly as well, as you can see on the pictures above (nothing better than a low waist, and they are making it higher…for what???).

   They look like kids. Not women.

4. FMS September 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm 4

   Oh, scarves! DEFINITELY in this fall, since I also saw a million of those this past weekend, and it was still HOT outside. Some people are rarin’ to get their fall scarves on, and I’ve never seen so many, so early.

   Definitely, LP.

5. FMS September 1st, 2008 at 4:53 pm 5

   And everyone, can we try to keep the commenting constructively critical, please? The “Korean people have horrible fashion” trope is an old one, something that I never hear the end of amongst non-Koreans. So, like, we know, right?

   Think we might be able to at least be specific in our criticisms, a la Imp, who is very specific about what is not to like, at least as he sees it?

   And I’ll add perhaps another line of conversation — what would you like to see? What do you think might look good on Koreans — or does — as opposed to outlining what we think is “bad?”

6. lovelyprincess September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm 6

   Not me…hehehe…I love the fashions in Korea. That’s why I can hardly save money here. Speaking of scarves, I am talking about these little hankerchief looking things I saw yesterday. You put them around your neck, drape style, over your blouse or shirt, and they have a little ribbon that you tie in the front. Maybe they should be called hankerchief scarves or hankerscarves…hehehe The regular scarves are definitely still in, too.

7. ExpatJane September 1st, 2008 at 9:18 pm 7

   That’s why, in spite of the surge in fashion in Korea, Koreans actually still have a way to go.

   It’s not that trends don’t happen back home. I’m heading to L.A. next week and I’m sure I’ll see similar looks passing me by on the street. However, here it goes into overdrive because being unique or different still isn’t a cool thing to do.

   The folks who stand out on FMS are the unique people like (most) of FMS’ fashion diarists or killer finds like Ms. Killer Pink from last summer.

   But yeah, seeing the same dress over and over? It’s like this summer where the sunglasses with the horizontal blinds were EVERYWHERE.

   Trendiness is a bargain basement form of fashion and it’s not very interesting.

8. 수경 September 2nd, 2008 at 12:58 am 8

   lol.. i wish they sell more of these skirts in my country.. i fell in love with it though ^^ it’s so girly.. ^^ and the earth tones are really easy on the eyes

9. 수경 September 2nd, 2008 at 12:59 am 9

   can’t wait for the street runway for myeongdong though ^^ love that place

10. 수경 September 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 am 10

    sorry for spamming, well, for me i thought fashion is what each individual likes on him or herself. Peace out. :/

11. ExpatJane September 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 am 11

    But that’s the issue. Is it REALLY what they like on themselves or is it that they see everyone else in it and, therefore, they buy it.

    Granted, it can be both.

    However, following the crowd is cattle behavior which probably has more to do with keeping up with the crowd rather than it truly being something you like.

    You see that a lot in Korea. That’s why FMS could walk through Myeongdong and see the same outfit that many times on different women. It’s much more of a collective culture than places in the West, and that’s something that is very distinct to foreigners just as I’m sure the habits and culture of Westerns is very distinct to those from Eastern cultures.

12. impolite one September 2nd, 2008 at 4:55 am 12

    You’re right EJane, I think it goes both ways. What is really missing here, though, amongst many Koreans, are two specific things.

    First is the fact that Koreans don’t understand what it means to be ‘cool’ as it is known to others around the world.
    For one, the Korean term ‘멋있다’ is often translated to be both ‘cool’ and ‘handsome’ which, as we know, are completely independent, 50 years later. You can be handsome as hell, but completely uncool, and as cool as anything, but hideously ugly. In an ideal world, everyone is both cool and handsome, but in reality, who is perfect enough to be both? It’s no longer the 1950’s, so we’ve moved on, right? It’s easier to be cooler than handsome, BTW.

    That said, ‘cool’ definitely brings about a masculine air for Koreans because of that. Korean women ideally go for ‘pretty’ and dabbling in ‘cool’ would not be seen as feminine. Possibly even limited to youth culture, where women can wear jeans and sneakers, and then it ends for them as they age. I believe it doesn’t have to be that way at all, and I’m sure most of you agree.

    ‘Cool’ to Koreans is still a two dimensional thing; step one, choose fashions, step two, attempt to project wealth, and that is about it. While mainstream fashion still inevitably goes hand in hand with costing money and giving off the allure of money, fashion itself does not have to be this way. If it doesn’t have the reputation of being money and status though, that is where Koreans stop being interested, really.
    This explains the persisting popularity of knockoff items, watered-down copies by domestic brands, heavily branded items and the continued popularity of mega-brands while smaller, more inconspicuously labeled brands never take off, and so on.

    The second part of all of this is that Korea has never really ever had an appreciation for aesthetics, and art/craftsmanship has never viewed very highly in the scheme of things. Art is taught in Korea in those art hakwons by teaching students to copy, and if not expressly, then students still do that anyway. One thing you may notice if you spend time with Asian people is that most of them are surprisingly good at drawing, better than Westerners. However, most of the ideas and concepts are weak.

    What that means for fashion is that you see a bunch of ugly outfits on everyone in Korea, and no one wants to take responsibility for dressing themselves. If someone else comes up with the idea, then they can be blamed for it, so why be individual? It’s the Korean way.

    Fashion that is architectural and structural, where it doesn’t need a brand name to be identifiable, that stuff doesn’t catch on in Korea, unless it is the case of a brand that becomes well-known elsewhere for it’s price and status. In Korea, it takes 2-3-4 years for labels to be released in any official retail setting. Raf Simons has been the hottest designer in the world for several years now and what everyone has been talking about, but he still doesn’t have very good retail representation in Korea apart from his line for Jil Sander. Korea is really slow on the uptake, mainly because they need someone on the outside to approve things for them, to tell them how to appreciate something. Otherwise it will be ignored.

    I refer to high fashion as a reference, not because I think that everyone can drop everything and fill their closets with it, but because good street fashion is aware of high fashion trends and brings them to the street in a translation. It can be high/low mix, or it can work just as well when it’s re-interpretation of an impression, however, there are certain unspoken bounds that make one thing cool and other things not.
    What happens in Korea is that fashion is based on buzzwords, without the general populus really understanding the drive behind them. The results are exactly like a game of telephone, I mean if you walk down the street aware of what the buzzwords are and take note of how they manifest themselves over there, you’d double over in laughter, I know I do. I’ve lived in Korea for a long time, so I could count back the years by fashion buzzword, if I wanted to sit on here all day…..

13. impolite one September 2nd, 2008 at 5:45 am 13

    By the way, if you people were ever wondering that makes Japanese fashion so trendy and cool, and why Korean fashion is looked down upon both in theory and in results, my answer is up there. Just some key differences between Korean and Japanese culture I guess. The two countries are very similar, but when it comes to things like this, they’re very different.

    The truth is, Korean fashion could explode, it has the potential to become something big, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up for it. Seoul is not going to be the next Antwerp within a matter of months, but it could maybe hope to be the next Tokyo, in about 10-20 years.
    Koreans almost have the money to afford it, they are reducing taxes on imports and are less afraid of foreign things, theres two Koreans showing in Paris now and a Korean cutting at Dries Van Noten, there are a good number of bonafide Korean supermodels ready for booking at whatever show a house thinks they can sell to Koreans, and Koreans are more eager than ever to be accepted by the world, but the money/status facets and lack of appreciation for aesthetics and intellectual property will hinder all of this. Jung Wook Jun aka Juun J and Woo Young Mi show in Paris, yes, but are they putting Seoul on the map? Not really. They are theoretically the Yohji Yamamoto and Rei Kawakubo in this, but the actual clothes are most definitely not up to that comparison. Nobody is saying ‘oh you look so Juun J/Woo Young Mi today’ as an adjective, like you can do with Yohji or Comme des Garcons, and those two didn’t invest enough into the Korean market in my opinion. They went this strange backwards way of starting off with the diffusion labels Lone Costume and Solid Homme selling cheap basics/euro designer ripoffs and print tees for several years, and now that Juun J shows in Paris he thinks he can suddenly get away with charging Koreans $3000 for a coat, which just won’t really work out as I see it.

14. Maximus September 2nd, 2008 at 8:59 am 14

    Why can’t I make my comments in the way I want? I’m not using any bad language, just expressing what I think about the subject. And trying to be as honest as I can.

    And I gave a simple fact to back it up: for me, they look like kids in these clothes. Not women. Well, considering that people here keep staring at underage Wondergirls members, maybe there is a point in looking like kids. And this is insane.

    Now, I like the comparison about how art is taught (mentioned above): no creativity here. Go to architecture, and you see that Seul’s buildings landscape is one of the ugliest: no nice design, no creativity, no modern, no nothing. A bunch of square boxes (apt buildings and houses). Go to other 3rd world countries and you can see much more variety and beauty.

    If you can trace a path til clothes fashion (like demonstrated above by ImpOne), the connection is done and phenomenom explained.

    Answering the question about what would be good to see on them: it would be good to see them stopping copying or trying to look nice beyond what they really are. In this country everybody wants to show off, from the girls all dressed up on high heels at E-Mart to the b-boys that want to show to the world that they are the best - not really having fun, but trying to make a point with their dance - like hiphop was a Korean creation (I wouldn’t be surprised if they claimed that as well, among other things). I’m not a US citizen, so not trying to defend USA as creators of hiphop as well.

    They should find a way to dress nicely without being arrogant, without being identical, without trying just to put a lot of expensive stuff on OR using copied things (as the vast majority) to look “cool”. They look ridiculous, that is how they look.

    Simple as that. I don’t believe one can’t see how artificial all this “fashion” in Korea is. Girls almost falling down from their heels (since they don’t know how to walk) is not fashion, is stupidity. You wanna suffer during a 3-4 hours nice party? That is perfectly fine. Now, having a hard time stumbling on the streets just to show your high heels that you cannot even move…this is not intelligent, at all.

15. ExpatJane September 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am 15

    I can comment on Koreans and hip-hop having interviewed a few Korean b-boys and other Korean hip-hop artists (it didn’t make it to the article though.) However, that’s the one thing they don’t try to claim. When I say “they”, I mean the people doing it like the b-boys and the few artists I’ve met. I have met everyday Koreans who don’t know where a baseline from a song comes from and, if I know, I’ll inform them that the sample they’re hearing is from an 80s rap song (yes, that happened once at the Subway shop next to Ewha’s front gate.)

    These young hip-hop artists and fans are usually well-informed and give their shout outs to where it came from and, btw, it did originate in the US. It’s a melding of black urban US culture, black American music and history but you can trace the story telling and performing all the way back to Africa. Now you see not only young black men from urban areas rapping but there is a whole Dirty South movement and blacks from more rural areas have done very well at it too. It’s evolving, like any art form does. Now that it’s hit Korea with a force, it will evolve in a specific way here. The Korean b-boys are adding moves that haven’t been seen before.

    I wrote about a friend who taught a History of Hip-hop class here and is an inspiration: http://expatjane.blogspot.com/2008/04/korea-herald-regina-waltons-expat.html

    I interviewed Jeff Chang, who is an American journalist, who specializes in the hip-hop subculture: http://expatjane.blogspot.com/2008/08/regina-waltons-expat-interviews-koreas.html

    I also interviewed DMC, who had a really good turn out at his Hard Rock Cafe performance.

    These young Koreans know the origins of hip-hop, and you can take a cynical interpretation or a less cynical one. The cynical one, hip-hop is so distinctly tied to black American culture that they couldn’t get away with claiming it or the less cynical one, not everyone in Korea is a thief.

    I think it’s a combination of both. Any Korean artist who’d try to claim hip-hop as a Korean creation and that news spread to English media would be clowned fast. Would that make it to the Korean press? Probably not though. However, most artists I’ve met now will praise those who came before them even if those who came before them aren’t Korean.

16. impolite one September 2nd, 2008 at 7:31 pm 16

    I know I’m fueling some fires here, but I’m Korean and I can say this, which is that beyond something like b-boy culture (which is pretty hard to mask the origins of), think of all the things Koreans do often mistakenly claim to have invented. Even the speculation of which famous Japanese athletes and entertainers are ethnically Korean, HAHA.

    Yeah, anyway, related back to fashion. Koreans are kinda split a few different ways, because there’s a real envy for: LA general culture/Hollywood celebrity culture (don’t get me started with Koreans and the Beckhams), in older times there was a bit of East-coast American envy that comes up again (Sex and the City helped) and then of course there’s always the strong faction historically that succumbs to dated Japanese trends because they’re convenient and easier to incorporate. I won’t even delve into LA celeb-driven style, but that is unfortunately a driving force behind Korean trends.

    Frankly, Western clothes are not cut to suit Asian frames, and anyone with an Asian body knows this. The reason Japanese mid-market brands exist is to bring European styles to Asian proportions. For awhile, Japanese midmarket brands were popular in Korea, especially in the late ’90’s. Not so much anymore, or at least the originals have been phased out by new ones, but Korean midmarket brands popped up in their place to bring girls more patterns, more frills, more ribbons, more pink, at lower prices. What you get is overdone 3rd hand accounts of what started off as something good, and you can imagine the results if you haven’t had the fortune of seeing them.
    They are what you see above.

    That last picture with the three girls, their outfits are just indescribably awful.

17. FMS September 2nd, 2008 at 7:59 pm 17

    Now let me through my flank into the fire, too.

    See, I actually LIKE a lot of the stuff I see on the Korean streets, and I *GASP* actually think Korean women are quite nicely dressed, in general. Yes, there is mindless trend following and some silliness in the mix, but to be fair, out of all the many outfits (many of them quite cute or pleasant to look at) I saw in my Insadong run, this is a pattern I picked up. And by definition, since these girls are following a clear trend, maybe they’re not the snappiest of the bunch. But to look at the ladies above as a way to kind of go off on the supposed lack of any creativity or fashion sense in Korea is a bit unfair, I think.

    And let’s remember that we’re giving people overly close scrutiny by definition here, since they’re frozen in time and appearing on a site. In the aggregate, one can see what’s going on in Korean fashion in general here (but not yet, as I’m decided to start posting big “Neighborhood Reports” that are simply lots of pictures of people I think are representative of what I see on a 2-3 hour walk through an area, or somehow catch my eye), but sometimes, a girl with a purse that doesn’t match is just someone who got a bit lazy going out the door to meet a friend for lunch — and to be fair, didn’t know she was going to be under the fashion microscope that day.

    Let me just say that one of the reasons I got the idea to even start doing this site is that about 3 years ago, it occurred to me that Korean fashion just started looking a whole hell of a lot better than before, and there was a sudden diversity I’d never seen before. And I think, without getting into origins and influences for a minute here, that Korean women (and very much increasingly, MEN!) are pretty sharp dressers.

    I know I may have exposed my true gaucheness by actually uttering such words (hehe, imp1), but as a lazy midwestern dresser who’s more of a photographer than a fashion guru, I just think that the streets these days are filled with snazzy dressers. Yeah, there are a lot of people who dress sloppy, or don’t put in any effort, but as a street fashion shooter, I’ll just say that over the last couple seasons, I can barely walk down the street for longer than a minute or two before I see someone whom I would kick myself for not getting a snap of.

    And for Imp1 — OK, in the last pic with the 3 girls, it goes (from left to right) indescribably awful to alright to pretty OK. Girl on the right isn’t a fashionista, but the most I’d hold against her is that it’s not such a super interesting outfit. But she was just going out for an afternoon in Insadong and didn’t know she was going to be in a fashion magazine, either.

    Don’t you think you’re being a bit harsh? I mean, from the way you describe it, it’s obvious you know A HECKUVA LOT about fashion, but your standards seem very, very high. Fashion runway high. Or very enlightened fashionista high. I think the blue one with the Pocahontas sandals is kinda cute, and pretty casual. Don’t think she’s trying to “do” much fashion-wise, other than look neat for a lazy Sunday out with her friend. On that level, are any of these girls really that bad?

    (OK, to be real and indulge my own catty impulses, I’ll have to leave the girl on the far left in the 3-girls shot out of this impassioned defense — that’ pretty atrocious, no matter what you’re trying to do). Hehe.

18. impolite one September 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm 18

    Yup, you are indeed right about the nature of candid subjects, and you actually are doing something different here, by bringing faceless candids of unknowing subjects. I like to look at street fashion sites, but yours is honestly the only one I can think of with this format. The standard street fashion site is usually of the ’snap’ format that has 2 or 3 posed pictures of each subject, and zero candids. I appreciate that it takes a pair to be able to snap off pictures of this nature. I also hope none of these strangers come across what I say and understand it, because they’d probably be in tears or amazement. hehe. You might notice I’ve kept my thoughts -mostly- to myself when it comes to fashion diaries or personal pictures…
    I see anonymous people in pictures grouped into themes and see them as more of a statement on what is happening in Korea at a given moment, if not a cultural snap, which I always have an opinion on, like everyone else…

    I am not surprised by the fact that Korean people like to follow trends, or even how they manifest themselves, I’m always in and out of Korea myself so I know how the gears work. I’d say I’ve lived in Korea for 6 of the past 8 years, and my suitcases that I’ve been packing for my next trip to Seoul are about to bust at the zippers because they’ve made the trip so many times in the past 10 years. Your lens is, I suppose, my pair of eyes when I’m not in Seoul. the pictures are not surprising or mysterious for me, but indeed usually something I haven’t seen before because it’s always something inevitably new, yet familiar at once.

    As for myself, you might be surprised to learn that fashion is not high on my list on interests, though it is something I do like look at and partake in, as is the case with many things. We all must dress ourselves, life is short, to partake in life during a certain era, any of these cliches make a good excuse for putting some effort into how we dress and style ourselves, just as it is for how we eat, how we entertain ourselves, etc. I’m not pegging anything as highbrow or lowbrow, because I dislike status associations, but I do know what I think is cool and what is not. We live in as good of a time as any, and the times are particularly good for diversity in fashion. The internet has allowed cultures to meld, and mens wear is taken seriously these days, so the other 50% are now on board.

    I know very well that 95% of the population is going to be wearing things that I think are ugly, and you know what? it goes the other way as well, 95% of the population may hate my clothes as well. I’m ok with that. They are free to have their opinions as well. For the record, I do see people in Seoul that I think are well dressed, and stylish. I won’t say that I see them often or that there are a lot of them, but I have seen them. I partake in fashion by buying a lot of labels, I admit, but when viewing others, it’s honestly that apparent beyond what they look like, and thus I have no more of a requirement for my idea ‘well-dressed’ to include labels than you do. If someone incoporates iconic pieces into their outfit, then I still have scrutinize whether they are working for them or not. Many times, those kinds of things don’t work for the wearer, and they’re just a case of flaunting perceived wealth. In any case, well dressed to the eye is just that. I have an interest in design and architecture, so those come into play when making my decisions as well. It makes for a very different kind of appreciation for fabric and clothing if you have ever tried to make anything yourself.
    I know it’s a sore point for the flag-wavers when I say that Japan is better dressed, insert New York City, insert France, insert England, etc. These are not exclusively my opinion, I’m sure you’ve heard the same thing. I mean, I think you were around about 8 years ago, back when sz 13 shoes, denim shorts, Sport replay, and fake Polo were cool in Korea, and by that point it’s kinda hard to disagree right? I like to find out the ‘why’ and I dislike the blind flag wavers because they don’t contribute much to progress.

    On Korean fashion, you’re right that it has improved over the years. Not all-around, in my opinion, but maybe at least that it has toned down a bit from the wild late ’90s and that it’s beginning to incorporate a bit more of a world view.

    And the last bit, re: the last picture. I was being harsh. Fashion brings that out of a lot of us. I am not too apologetic about this part though, I mean if it comes down to it, at least refer to my login here, and leave it at that. I don’t think the girl in the background on the far left is any more badly dressed than the three in the foreground though, she might be wearing the old model and the girls in front the new, but to me, they’re all ugly clothes.

19. ExpatJane September 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pm 19

    I’m just leaning back and enjoying the discussion.

    However, FMS I think trying to police what people say about pics you’ve taken while you’re out snapping anonymous pics isn’t really fair. It’s a fashion site and when it comes to looks and fashion, people dish.

    As Impolite One points out, (he/she???) isn’t going off full haul on people that are clearly identified like diarists or people you’ve stopped to photograph. However, why the hell not say “that outfit looks like crap” on an anonymous shot? In this case, the outfits featured here are craptastic and I don’t care if all of Myeongdong was wearing them.

20. FMS September 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm 20

    Not trying to “police” — no one’s being banned or censored here. I am just hoping that people might be a bit more constructively critical by being detailed, rather than just saying an outfit “looks like crap.” That’s why I mentioned I liked Imp1’s critiques, as blazing as they can be — he’s very specific about what he does and doesn’t like, and I learn something from his critiques.

    But if someone just comes in and says “she’s a crappy dresser, like all Koreans” — well, that’s a sentiment, but doesn’t move the conversation forward. And I don’t learn anything, either.

    And I think that by pushing each other for more, we’ve been having a pretty productive conversation, full of things I can actually respond to, as can others with different opinions than me.

    I don’t agree with some of the conclusions that Imp1 makes, but his reasons for making them are quite educational to me — he obviously knows more about the fashion world and clothes than I do, and I’d like to know more than just the conclusion.

    And as for the impetus for basically asking people to be a bit more charitable by at least backing up a statement like “Koreans can’t dress” or something with some more details wasn’t Imp1 as much as Maximus in comment #3. I’m not saying one can’t say whatever they want (Maximus, don’t take it personally!) — I am just asking people to be a bit nicer, but barring that, at least be detailed in their criticisms.

    I’m just trying to moderate discussion, not censor it. I just think it’s important to tell people that, as the photographer for the posts, I’d feel better if the pictures I took were going to be commented on in a way that would spark or further a real discussion, and not just be something for people to dish on.

    It’s a request that I have, since it’ll make me feel better about taking pictures and putting them up online, face shown or not. Just my 2 cents as parts of this discussion, and because I don’t want to start feeling guilty about taking these pictures.

21. FMS September 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm 21

    Maximus — by the way, I’m just using you as a convenient example, not setting you up as any culprit here. We know you’ve been coming here for a long time and your comments have always been appreciated.

    Everyone — on with the conversation! Like ExpatJane, I’ve been enjoying this a lot, too, and have also been learning a great deal. And thanks to ExpatJane for prodding me to explain myself more. I certainly don’t want it to seem like I’m pointing the ban gun at anyone, but I just wanted to put in my 2 cents as a moderator and the photographer.

22. Maximus September 3rd, 2008 at 5:44 pm 22

    No offense taken. Just a bit frustrated with the “vigilant” aspect, that all comments must have a background, etc. . For some of them, I agree. In other cases, it’s just a matter of feeling: it’s beautiful or it’s ugly. It’s binary: 0 or 1, black or white, no greyzone.

    Perception is individual. I may like blue, you may like red. I may hate green, you may love it. And by expressing that, I’m being vocal about what I see in Korea. And if people like to dress that way (I bet they like just to be “standard), fine. And if they don’t like the way I dress (I’m no fashionista, AT ALL, I hate trends), I really don’t care.

    If everybody was a little more confidente about him/herself, things would be much better. But this is a world (country?) where it’s more important to show off than to be happy with yourself.

23. FMS September 3rd, 2008 at 6:13 pm 23

    Fair enough, Maximus. I hear you.

    For my part, I just wanted to push ppl to be a bit more charitable, since I am taking the pix with a bit of a different take on things than some of you guys. Just wanted to let everyone know that.

24. Maximus September 3rd, 2008 at 9:23 pm 24

    By the way, the pictures are always great! I really admire your shots (and I need some tips).

    The “issue” is the outfits.

25. ExpatJane September 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 pm 25

    If someone wants to say “that is the ugliest fucking outfit I’ve ever seen” and leave it at that, they ought to be able to without being prodded for more. I guess if they’re trollish and that’s all they ever bring to the table, fine. But otherwise, let people dish.

    Fashion is also simply about how it makes you feel.