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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;&#8216;Tell Me&#8217; Wave&#8221; Is Stupid</title>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-8535</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude! stop being a hater!</description>
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		<title>By: FMS</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-8336</link>
		<dc:creator>FMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow -- 콤멘트를 올려주니까 고마워요. 

근데 이 건 악풀아니에요. 그냥 JYP를 원래 좋아하지만 (진짜 재능이 있다고 하니까) 원더걸즈는 특별한 재능이 없다고 생각해요. 그리고 더욱더 왜 이린 애들이 점점 더 일면서도 이렇게 성적으로 나오는 건 반대도 하고요. 그냥 길게 얘기안해도 (더 자세히 여러 글에서 더 깊이 설명도 했어요) 무처권 악풀처럼 -- "미워! 싫어!" -- 그냥 욕하고 가버리는 것아니라 왜 안좋다고 생각하는지 다 얘기하고 그리고 누가 썼는지 다 공개합니다. 

동의하지 않으시면 자기 선택이라고 생각해요. 그 걸 존경해요. 누구나의 안동의하는 권리를 존경해요. 

근데 악풀은 욕도 쓰고. 누가 바뀔 수 없는 생김새, 인종, 성, 그런 것에 대해서 뭐라고 기분 나쁘게 하고. 그리고 이유도 설명도 안하고 그냥 단순한 '싫다'고 하고 익명으로 올리고 가버리는 거예요.

아무리 개인적으로 기분이 나빠도 제가 봤을 때는 원더걸즈만아니라 대부분 요새 나오는 사람들이 옛날처럼 재능이 있는 것보다 생김새와 마케팅밖에 생각안 해요. 다른식으로 말하면 JYP얼마나 잘했는데 원더걸즈는 그의 수준도아니란 말이죠. 

하야튼 이 글이 쓴지 오래 됐어요. 어느정도 제 생각이 바뀐 거예요. 왜 Tell Me는 인기 있었는지 그리고 재능도 없는 그 걸그룹이 그 노래를 부르는 건 왜 나름대로 재밌는지 좀 느껴진 거예요. 그리고 JYP도 이 애들이 특별한 재능이 없는 걸 알면서도 세계한테 소개해주는 건 얼마나 똑똑한 건지 이젠 느껴지는 거예요. JYP는 진짜 마케팅 그리고 한국의 유행/열풍 그런 것들을 얼마나 잘아닌지 이젠 알게 된 거예요. 

근데 처음부터 주장 한 건 -- 원더걸즈는 재능이 없는 것 -- 그 생각 안 바뀠습니다. 제가 미국사람이라서 그런지 모르겠지만 자기 솔직한 생각이고 무슨 '악풀'아니라고 생각합니다.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; 콤멘트를 올려주니까 고마워요. </p>
<p>근데 이 건 악풀아니에요. 그냥 JYP를 원래 좋아하지만 (진짜 재능이 있다고 하니까) 원더걸즈는 특별한 재능이 없다고 생각해요. 그리고 더욱더 왜 이린 애들이 점점 더 일면서도 이렇게 성적으로 나오는 건 반대도 하고요. 그냥 길게 얘기안해도 (더 자세히 여러 글에서 더 깊이 설명도 했어요) 무처권 악풀처럼 &#8212; &#8220;미워! 싫어!&#8221; &#8212; 그냥 욕하고 가버리는 것아니라 왜 안좋다고 생각하는지 다 얘기하고 그리고 누가 썼는지 다 공개합니다. </p>
<p>동의하지 않으시면 자기 선택이라고 생각해요. 그 걸 존경해요. 누구나의 안동의하는 권리를 존경해요. </p>
<p>근데 악풀은 욕도 쓰고. 누가 바뀔 수 없는 생김새, 인종, 성, 그런 것에 대해서 뭐라고 기분 나쁘게 하고. 그리고 이유도 설명도 안하고 그냥 단순한 &#8216;싫다&#8217;고 하고 익명으로 올리고 가버리는 거예요.</p>
<p>아무리 개인적으로 기분이 나빠도 제가 봤을 때는 원더걸즈만아니라 대부분 요새 나오는 사람들이 옛날처럼 재능이 있는 것보다 생김새와 마케팅밖에 생각안 해요. 다른식으로 말하면 JYP얼마나 잘했는데 원더걸즈는 그의 수준도아니란 말이죠. </p>
<p>하야튼 이 글이 쓴지 오래 됐어요. 어느정도 제 생각이 바뀐 거예요. 왜 Tell Me는 인기 있었는지 그리고 재능도 없는 그 걸그룹이 그 노래를 부르는 건 왜 나름대로 재밌는지 좀 느껴진 거예요. 그리고 JYP도 이 애들이 특별한 재능이 없는 걸 알면서도 세계한테 소개해주는 건 얼마나 똑똑한 건지 이젠 느껴지는 거예요. JYP는 진짜 마케팅 그리고 한국의 유행/열풍 그런 것들을 얼마나 잘아닌지 이젠 알게 된 거예요. </p>
<p>근데 처음부터 주장 한 건 &#8212; 원더걸즈는 재능이 없는 것 &#8212; 그 생각 안 바뀠습니다. 제가 미국사람이라서 그런지 모르겠지만 자기 솔직한 생각이고 무슨 &#8216;악풀&#8217;아니라고 생각합니다.</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-8335</link>
		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>영어를 잘 못해서 그냥 한글로 몇자 적어봅니다.


일단

처음에 객관적인 평가를 얘기하시다가요

리플에서는 그냥 개인의 블로그 의견임을 강변하셨거든요.

그거 일종의 모순아닌가요?

차라리 그냥 주관적인 평가라고 처음부터 얘기를 하시는 것이

좋았을 겁니다.

그리고 원더걸스 텔미 열풍에 대해 길게 써 주셨는데요.

한국 대중 문화에 대해 잘 아시는 분 치고는

왜 원더걸스 텔미 열풍이 어리석은 건지에 대한

분석이 너무 허접하네요.

그냥 자기가 보기에 이상하니깐 그 느낌을

적은 글 같아서요.

한국에서도 원더걸스 텔미 열풍에 대해 무조건 좋은 의견만 

있는 것도 아니고 

말 그대로 원더걸스와 텔미라는 노래 그리고

제작자인 박진영에 대한 일종의 심도 깊은 분석이

( 노래 탄생 과정부터 소위 텔미 열풍의 모든 것 까지 )

많이 이루어진 걸로 알고 있습니다.

최소한 그런 글들을 읽어나 보시고

텔미 열풍이 어리석다

원더걸스 문제있다

이런식의 글을 쓰시는 건가요?

유감이지만

이런 글은 솔직히 말해서

한국으로 치면

인터넷 키보드 워리어의 악플 수준 밖에는 안되보이네요.

앞에서도 말했지만

그냥

예를 들면 동양인과 서양인의 감각 차이나

나라마다 다른 관점등을 기본적으로 전제에 까시는 편이

더 좋았을 것 같네요.

어설프게 객관성을 강조하시는 것보다는요.

아무튼

멋지게 꾸며진 블로그에 비해

컨텐츠가 부실한 것 같네요..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>영어를 잘 못해서 그냥 한글로 몇자 적어봅니다.</p>
<p>일단</p>
<p>처음에 객관적인 평가를 얘기하시다가요</p>
<p>리플에서는 그냥 개인의 블로그 의견임을 강변하셨거든요.</p>
<p>그거 일종의 모순아닌가요?</p>
<p>차라리 그냥 주관적인 평가라고 처음부터 얘기를 하시는 것이</p>
<p>좋았을 겁니다.</p>
<p>그리고 원더걸스 텔미 열풍에 대해 길게 써 주셨는데요.</p>
<p>한국 대중 문화에 대해 잘 아시는 분 치고는</p>
<p>왜 원더걸스 텔미 열풍이 어리석은 건지에 대한</p>
<p>분석이 너무 허접하네요.</p>
<p>그냥 자기가 보기에 이상하니깐 그 느낌을</p>
<p>적은 글 같아서요.</p>
<p>한국에서도 원더걸스 텔미 열풍에 대해 무조건 좋은 의견만 </p>
<p>있는 것도 아니고 </p>
<p>말 그대로 원더걸스와 텔미라는 노래 그리고</p>
<p>제작자인 박진영에 대한 일종의 심도 깊은 분석이</p>
<p>( 노래 탄생 과정부터 소위 텔미 열풍의 모든 것 까지 )</p>
<p>많이 이루어진 걸로 알고 있습니다.</p>
<p>최소한 그런 글들을 읽어나 보시고</p>
<p>텔미 열풍이 어리석다</p>
<p>원더걸스 문제있다</p>
<p>이런식의 글을 쓰시는 건가요?</p>
<p>유감이지만</p>
<p>이런 글은 솔직히 말해서</p>
<p>한국으로 치면</p>
<p>인터넷 키보드 워리어의 악플 수준 밖에는 안되보이네요.</p>
<p>앞에서도 말했지만</p>
<p>그냥</p>
<p>예를 들면 동양인과 서양인의 감각 차이나</p>
<p>나라마다 다른 관점등을 기본적으로 전제에 까시는 편이</p>
<p>더 좋았을 것 같네요.</p>
<p>어설프게 객관성을 강조하시는 것보다는요.</p>
<p>아무튼</p>
<p>멋지게 꾸며진 블로그에 비해</p>
<p>컨텐츠가 부실한 것 같네요..</p>
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		<title>By: FMS</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-8164</link>
		<dc:creator>FMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, perhaps I was a bit harsh. I just don't like the present state of K-Pop, because I see all these megagroups and very little relative talent. I long for the days when talent meant for something, not just 35 singers in an army formation. The 90's were rougher around the edges, but in a way, much more fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, perhaps I was a bit harsh. I just don&#8217;t like the present state of K-Pop, because I see all these megagroups and very little relative talent. I long for the days when talent meant for something, not just 35 singers in an army formation. The 90&#8217;s were rougher around the edges, but in a way, much more fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Liya</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-8160</link>
		<dc:creator>Liya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You shouldn't say they don't have talent only based on Tell Me. Of course you can dance like that, and that's the point. Because everyone can do it, more people will get into the "wave". But they CAN dance AND sing, Tell Me just don't do their justice. When singing ballads only So Hee can't really sing, when dancing to Irony and This Fool they can show a bit of their moves. 
But then, it's JYP that don't give them a song where they show their potential. How can you sing properly on Tell Me and So Hot? You can't use vibrato or anything else on songs like that, so judging WG on these songs are totally pointless. 
I didn't really like them either when I heard Tell Me, but damn, that's one catchy song! And once I've heard and seen their perf of other songs, I loved them. Of course they're not BoA or DBSK or even Hyori, but they only have 1 professional year behind them, there's still room for improvements.
About underage statement, you should check out for Sweaty, that group is made of kids under 12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t say they don&#8217;t have talent only based on Tell Me. Of course you can dance like that, and that&#8217;s the point. Because everyone can do it, more people will get into the &#8220;wave&#8221;. But they CAN dance AND sing, Tell Me just don&#8217;t do their justice. When singing ballads only So Hee can&#8217;t really sing, when dancing to Irony and This Fool they can show a bit of their moves.<br />
But then, it&#8217;s JYP that don&#8217;t give them a song where they show their potential. How can you sing properly on Tell Me and So Hot? You can&#8217;t use vibrato or anything else on songs like that, so judging WG on these songs are totally pointless.<br />
I didn&#8217;t really like them either when I heard Tell Me, but damn, that&#8217;s one catchy song! And once I&#8217;ve heard and seen their perf of other songs, I loved them. Of course they&#8217;re not BoA or DBSK or even Hyori, but they only have 1 professional year behind them, there&#8217;s still room for improvements.<br />
About underage statement, you should check out for Sweaty, that group is made of kids under 12.</p>
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		<title>By: Just another Reply...</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-8116</link>
		<dc:creator>Just another Reply...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This remind me of Linkin Park's case, where many Rock fans criticize LP for their music. They said that LP's music are not good enough and things like that. 

So what ? In the end, many still like LP, and the fact that they are one of the most well-known rock band (or 'whatsoever band' that you want to call 'em) ever, not just within the "Rock community". Part of it was because their music was easy to listen and their lyrics were something that you can easy understand. 

So, take it easy, guys. We are not talking about can the WG sing or dance or not. They CAN sing and dance, to some extent, alright ? :) 

Of course there are other controversy, like their underage state, unsuitable sexy dancing.... and so on. But I won't talk about it. Since all over the world, there are teenager pregnancy, students related to drugs, shooting, smoking... In American films, for examples, these scenes are quite popular and who say that the teenagers won't be affected by it ? 

It's the adults who brought the youngsters to these are to blame, not the youngsters themselves. They might don't even understand what are they doing. 

So it's the adults who need to take responsibility. They can act, they can educate their child, they can prevent others from polluting the children's mind, ... . They should do something rather than just complain about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This remind me of Linkin Park&#8217;s case, where many Rock fans criticize LP for their music. They said that LP&#8217;s music are not good enough and things like that. </p>
<p>So what ? In the end, many still like LP, and the fact that they are one of the most well-known rock band (or &#8216;whatsoever band&#8217; that you want to call &#8216;em) ever, not just within the &#8220;Rock community&#8221;. Part of it was because their music was easy to listen and their lyrics were something that you can easy understand. </p>
<p>So, take it easy, guys. We are not talking about can the WG sing or dance or not. They CAN sing and dance, to some extent, alright ? <img src='http://www.feetmanseoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course there are other controversy, like their underage state, unsuitable sexy dancing&#8230;. and so on. But I won&#8217;t talk about it. Since all over the world, there are teenager pregnancy, students related to drugs, shooting, smoking&#8230; In American films, for examples, these scenes are quite popular and who say that the teenagers won&#8217;t be affected by it ? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the adults who brought the youngsters to these are to blame, not the youngsters themselves. They might don&#8217;t even understand what are they doing. </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s the adults who need to take responsibility. They can act, they can educate their child, they can prevent others from polluting the children&#8217;s mind, &#8230; . They should do something rather than just complain about it.</p>
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		<title>By: gossip girl</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-8002</link>
		<dc:creator>gossip girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, some harsh comments there. 
 totally agree with what ^ tristan said though, this is a blog, the author is allowed to expressed his opinions/ thoughts freely. anyone can comment but hey, don't be harsh/ irrational.

tell me--  WG, they don't seem very talented but i can c y they're so popular though. it's the music n the song! very catchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, some harsh comments there.<br />
 totally agree with what ^ tristan said though, this is a blog, the author is allowed to expressed his opinions/ thoughts freely. anyone can comment but hey, don&#8217;t be harsh/ irrational.</p>
<p>tell me&#8211;  WG, they don&#8217;t seem very talented but i can c y they&#8217;re so popular though. it&#8217;s the music n the song! very catchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7865</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ HannahMont2.  This is a blog.  The author can express his opinion, on any topic, in any way he wants.  If you can't cope with the fact that someone has a different opinion than you, I suggest disconnecting your internet service and living in a cave.  Your other option would be to grow up because, quite frankly, your passionate display of affection for the Wonder Girls is a little creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ HannahMont2.  This is a blog.  The author can express his opinion, on any topic, in any way he wants.  If you can&#8217;t cope with the fact that someone has a different opinion than you, I suggest disconnecting your internet service and living in a cave.  Your other option would be to grow up because, quite frankly, your passionate display of affection for the Wonder Girls is a little creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: haj</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7814</link>
		<dc:creator>haj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, they have no talent. although compared to the others, yeun and sunye are better. only when compared to their bandmates though. 
i dont mind that the dance is super simple and that they're not very good- i enjoy a trend or two once n a while. i agree, this one was way overdone, but it was fun when it was just catching on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, they have no talent. although compared to the others, yeun and sunye are better. only when compared to their bandmates though.<br />
i dont mind that the dance is super simple and that they&#8217;re not very good- i enjoy a trend or two once n a while. i agree, this one was way overdone, but it was fun when it was just catching on.</p>
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		<title>By: chic.outback</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7756</link>
		<dc:creator>chic.outback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keep it short and simple. they're cute. yeah... yeah.... but come on. you should be tired watching "tell me" on youtube. right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep it short and simple. they&#8217;re cute. yeah&#8230; yeah&#8230;. but come on. you should be tired watching &#8220;tell me&#8221; on youtube. right?</p>
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		<title>By: FMS</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7678</link>
		<dc:creator>FMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, have been infected by "Tell Me" disease. It no longer bothers me. I---I---kind of---like the dance. 

Nooooooooo!

Help me! 

Help me. H-h-h-h-h-help me.

Nooooooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, have been infected by &#8220;Tell Me&#8221; disease. It no longer bothers me. I&#8212;I&#8212;kind of&#8212;like the dance. </p>
<p>Nooooooooo!</p>
<p>Help me! </p>
<p>Help me. H-h-h-h-h-help me.</p>
<p>Nooooooo!</p>
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		<title>By: Aniitaz</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7640</link>
		<dc:creator>Aniitaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe...but that song is so CATCHY ... i sing it like a week TT___TT
Tell me tell me t-t-t-t-tell me u_______u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe&#8230;but that song is so CATCHY &#8230; i sing it like a week TT___TT<br />
Tell me tell me t-t-t-t-tell me u_______u</p>
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		<title>By: Gomushin Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7340</link>
		<dc:creator>Gomushin Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think anybody here is trying to say anything bad about Korea.  Heck, most people here aren't even complaining about the dance itself.  The popularity of the dance is one thing, and bizarre as it seems to some of us, it's spread is explicable:  despite looking complicated, the moves themselves are really easy.  There's just a LOT of them, but if you can memorize the steps they're not so hard to do.  That brings us to the complaint about the Wonder Girls ~ since the dance is basically pretty easy, it's annoying for some people that the group that originated it is pretty darn bad at it.  They've gotten better, but when people can get their computer avatars to do it better than the Wonder Girl's first performance, you have to wonder about how much talent they actually have.  That's the real point.  Korea produces lots of really talented singers and dancers, so the the Wonder Girl's popularity makes some people . . .well, it makes us wonder.  
The other thing that gets lots of people is the age of some of the girls.  I personally think it's more than a bit creepy to sexualize girls who aren't yet the age of consent.  So do lots of people, both non-natives and natives alike.  It's not about "making Korea sound bad"  The Wonder Girls don't make anything sound bad (except maybe themselves) no matter how much people criticize them.  But neither does criticizing them.  I happen to despise SMAP and their tyrrany of Japanese pop culture, but I've never had any of my Japanese friends take it to mean I hate Japan even though it's overrun with SMAP-loving fiends.   Nor do my Canadian  chingu accuse me of hating Canada when I make fun of Celine Dion's ovewrought "My Heart Will Go On" (and on, and on, and oooooooooooon!  make it stop!)  Likewise, griping about the "Tell Me Wave" is just that: griping about yet another "wave", this time spawned by girls without much talent and with some rather sleezy appeal among the not-quite-the-target-audience.
So if you like them, go find a forum and talk about how much you like them.  But if you want to talk about them with people who don't like them, let's not start by accusing them of being childish and possibly racist, please?  
In the meantime, however, I remain deeply envious of Big Mamma.  I wish I could sing like that . . .or at least sometimes borrow her tailor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anybody here is trying to say anything bad about Korea.  Heck, most people here aren&#8217;t even complaining about the dance itself.  The popularity of the dance is one thing, and bizarre as it seems to some of us, it&#8217;s spread is explicable:  despite looking complicated, the moves themselves are really easy.  There&#8217;s just a LOT of them, but if you can memorize the steps they&#8217;re not so hard to do.  That brings us to the complaint about the Wonder Girls ~ since the dance is basically pretty easy, it&#8217;s annoying for some people that the group that originated it is pretty darn bad at it.  They&#8217;ve gotten better, but when people can get their computer avatars to do it better than the Wonder Girl&#8217;s first performance, you have to wonder about how much talent they actually have.  That&#8217;s the real point.  Korea produces lots of really talented singers and dancers, so the the Wonder Girl&#8217;s popularity makes some people . . .well, it makes us wonder.<br />
The other thing that gets lots of people is the age of some of the girls.  I personally think it&#8217;s more than a bit creepy to sexualize girls who aren&#8217;t yet the age of consent.  So do lots of people, both non-natives and natives alike.  It&#8217;s not about &#8220;making Korea sound bad&#8221;  The Wonder Girls don&#8217;t make anything sound bad (except maybe themselves) no matter how much people criticize them.  But neither does criticizing them.  I happen to despise SMAP and their tyrrany of Japanese pop culture, but I&#8217;ve never had any of my Japanese friends take it to mean I hate Japan even though it&#8217;s overrun with SMAP-loving fiends.   Nor do my Canadian  chingu accuse me of hating Canada when I make fun of Celine Dion&#8217;s ovewrought &#8220;My Heart Will Go On&#8221; (and on, and on, and oooooooooooon!  make it stop!)  Likewise, griping about the &#8220;Tell Me Wave&#8221; is just that: griping about yet another &#8220;wave&#8221;, this time spawned by girls without much talent and with some rather sleezy appeal among the not-quite-the-target-audience.<br />
So if you like them, go find a forum and talk about how much you like them.  But if you want to talk about them with people who don&#8217;t like them, let&#8217;s not start by accusing them of being childish and possibly racist, please?<br />
In the meantime, however, I remain deeply envious of Big Mamma.  I wish I could sing like that . . .or at least sometimes borrow her tailor.</p>
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		<title>By: hannahMont2</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7314</link>
		<dc:creator>hannahMont2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay... i think you guys dont have to make a forum for this.. grow up! okay? if you dont like it, just live with it. anyways, what are you t rying to do with this forum?? get as many comments so you can sue them or what?
YOU GUYS, just because they cant dance well or not, i think you guys are jealous. i think you guys think they are getting all that attention for "nothing" and you think you can do better yet you are not famous. Yesterday i watched this TV show (in korea) and lots of ppl were dancing tell me to it. if you dont like it, LIVE WITH IT, you dont have to make sure everyone knows it. i mean, whether they are good or not, they tried their best, and now lots of ppl like that dance?  
I don't know why you do this. It's ridiculous. Maybe there are americans out there who think "oh, KOREA doesnt matter, but how come THEY have Wondergirls that are sooo famous?" and so u make a forum to try and make sure other countries are better than my hometown. I'm not a fan of them or anything, I'm a korean and i listen to that song. SO what's going to happen when ten MILLION people say they dont like it? So what if they are young? and WHAT IF THEIR DANCE MOVES JUST DONT HAPPEN TO BE PERFECT? Why do you guys always want to defame people or things that have tried and worked up their talent to make something out of it? WHy dont YOU Guys try making a dance and get it all over YouTube and Google searches? Just STOP okay? It may not be the dance they have in other countries, but us koreans think this is offensive. I've lived in America for god knows how long and i can read exactly what you mean. It doesnt matter WHAT you are critisizing. I mean come on, "the 'tell me' Wave" is Stupid? That is really immature. I could tell you guys are jealous. See what you wrote :


"But now, we have a Wonder Girls dance "wave"? Nooo. Not another "wave." And for what? Some rejects from an audition for the Doosan cheerleaders now working as street dancers opening a Paris Baguette could do the "Tell Me" dance better than the Wonder Girls. Has Korean pop culture really gotten so bad? There isn't anyone more talented who can be on stage during prime time? This is it?"

What is THAT? Just because I don't like KFC, I dont make a WHOLE FRIGGIN FORUM SAYING I DONT LIKE KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I take it to myself. So, I dont know why you do this. YOu guys should just grow up okay?
whether you like it or not, you dont have to offend others by making Korea sound bad. We'd had enough of that over the years. We don't critisize American or other countries for the little flaws they have. SO JUST GROW UP!!!! Ugh... you guys act like little kids....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay&#8230; i think you guys dont have to make a forum for this.. grow up! okay? if you dont like it, just live with it. anyways, what are you t rying to do with this forum?? get as many comments so you can sue them or what?<br />
YOU GUYS, just because they cant dance well or not, i think you guys are jealous. i think you guys think they are getting all that attention for &#8220;nothing&#8221; and you think you can do better yet you are not famous. Yesterday i watched this TV show (in korea) and lots of ppl were dancing tell me to it. if you dont like it, LIVE WITH IT, you dont have to make sure everyone knows it. i mean, whether they are good or not, they tried their best, and now lots of ppl like that dance?<br />
I don&#8217;t know why you do this. It&#8217;s ridiculous. Maybe there are americans out there who think &#8220;oh, KOREA doesnt matter, but how come THEY have Wondergirls that are sooo famous?&#8221; and so u make a forum to try and make sure other countries are better than my hometown. I&#8217;m not a fan of them or anything, I&#8217;m a korean and i listen to that song. SO what&#8217;s going to happen when ten MILLION people say they dont like it? So what if they are young? and WHAT IF THEIR DANCE MOVES JUST DONT HAPPEN TO BE PERFECT? Why do you guys always want to defame people or things that have tried and worked up their talent to make something out of it? WHy dont YOU Guys try making a dance and get it all over YouTube and Google searches? Just STOP okay? It may not be the dance they have in other countries, but us koreans think this is offensive. I&#8217;ve lived in America for god knows how long and i can read exactly what you mean. It doesnt matter WHAT you are critisizing. I mean come on, &#8220;the &#8216;tell me&#8217; Wave&#8221; is Stupid? That is really immature. I could tell you guys are jealous. See what you wrote :</p>
<p>&#8220;But now, we have a Wonder Girls dance &#8220;wave&#8221;? Nooo. Not another &#8220;wave.&#8221; And for what? Some rejects from an audition for the Doosan cheerleaders now working as street dancers opening a Paris Baguette could do the &#8220;Tell Me&#8221; dance better than the Wonder Girls. Has Korean pop culture really gotten so bad? There isn&#8217;t anyone more talented who can be on stage during prime time? This is it?&#8221;</p>
<p>What is THAT? Just because I don&#8217;t like KFC, I dont make a WHOLE FRIGGIN FORUM SAYING I DONT LIKE KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
I take it to myself. So, I dont know why you do this. YOu guys should just grow up okay?<br />
whether you like it or not, you dont have to offend others by making Korea sound bad. We&#8217;d had enough of that over the years. We don&#8217;t critisize American or other countries for the little flaws they have. SO JUST GROW UP!!!! Ugh&#8230; you guys act like little kids&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: st.gaby</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7215</link>
		<dc:creator>st.gaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do like that little move they make but i feel sorry for them at the same time. i gues they have fame now but are they really doing what they want to do? or doing what they are told to do?
anyway 텔미 텔미 테테테테테테 텔미 LOL :P 
it is addictive as SparQeen said and fun to watch also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do like that little move they make but i feel sorry for them at the same time. i gues they have fame now but are they really doing what they want to do? or doing what they are told to do?<br />
anyway 텔미 텔미 테테테테테테 텔미 LOL <img src='http://www.feetmanseoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
it is addictive as SparQeen said and fun to watch also.</p>
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		<title>By: SparQeen</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7207</link>
		<dc:creator>SparQeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... I do agree with the 'fact' they cannot sing... But! I like 'them'! Totally reversing the recent trend, Wondergirl actually created new 'boom' or was it JYP? I do not care if people call it stupid... The song is easy and have a power to make people 'addicted' to it! And it's fun to watch and do what they do!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; I do agree with the &#8216;fact&#8217; they cannot sing&#8230; But! I like &#8216;them&#8217;! Totally reversing the recent trend, Wondergirl actually created new &#8216;boom&#8217; or was it JYP? I do not care if people call it stupid&#8230; The song is easy and have a power to make people &#8216;addicted&#8217; to it! And it&#8217;s fun to watch and do what they do!!</p>
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		<title>By: phoenixstorm</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7205</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenixstorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think its wrong. It just means that you might be one of those people who linger or slow down when arriving upon an accident. I don't care for them either, but as a friend of mine said, "American gave us New Kids on the Block! You not throw stone." He's right. I would be hard pressed to come up with a winner between WG and NKOTB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think its wrong. It just means that you might be one of those people who linger or slow down when arriving upon an accident. I don&#8217;t care for them either, but as a friend of mine said, &#8220;American gave us New Kids on the Block! You not throw stone.&#8221; He&#8217;s right. I would be hard pressed to come up with a winner between WG and NKOTB.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzler</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7195</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it wrong that I agree that the girls are too young, can't sing or dance and I'm still totally fascinated by them anyways? It's more the potential, okay, fine, it's cos I like JYP's songwriting and production, I just sort of tolerate them. I see the girls as being more cyphers than anything else. And the Korean entertainment industry (or Korea generally) rarely seems to award talent so much as effort. 수고하시면 능력은 필요 없다 (unfortunamente)~ And so many of these idol groups are about image and entertaining generally versus performing as musicians. 

My fave girl group is actually British though--Girls Aloud. They are the BEST. Way better than the Spice Girls, but Girls Aloud has the power of Xenomania on their side </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it wrong that I agree that the girls are too young, can&#8217;t sing or dance and I&#8217;m still totally fascinated by them anyways? It&#8217;s more the potential, okay, fine, it&#8217;s cos I like JYP&#8217;s songwriting and production, I just sort of tolerate them. I see the girls as being more cyphers than anything else. And the Korean entertainment industry (or Korea generally) rarely seems to award talent so much as effort. 수고하시면 능력은 필요 없다 (unfortunamente)~ And so many of these idol groups are about image and entertaining generally versus performing as musicians. </p>
<p>My fave girl group is actually British though&#8211;Girls Aloud. They are the BEST. Way better than the Spice Girls, but Girls Aloud has the power of Xenomania on their side</p>
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		<title>By: lnsip9reg</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7190</link>
		<dc:creator>lnsip9reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah.. you might give props to JYP, but he did create the Wonder Girls.  And he's probably hoping for an SES/Finkl length career from these girls.  It's all about the money, and beyond being a great entertainer, JYP is a savvy businessman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah.. you might give props to JYP, but he did create the Wonder Girls.  And he&#8217;s probably hoping for an SES/Finkl length career from these girls.  It&#8217;s all about the money, and beyond being a great entertainer, JYP is a savvy businessman.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.feetmanseoul.com/2007/11/28/the-tell-me-wave-is-stupid/#comment-7185</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talent matters not...it's &lt;a href="http://koreabeat.com/?p=526" rel="nofollow"&gt;the thought&lt;/a&gt; that counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talent matters not&#8230;it&#8217;s <a href="http://koreabeat.com/?p=526" rel="nofollow">the thought</a> that counts.</p>
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